A leader in Christian Evangelical circles, Ted Haggard, after undergoing extensive psychological testing has been proven to be “100% homosexual”. In other words, “all gay”.
It brought to mind a conversation I once had riding in a funeral procession. The driver asked me about my family. I told him about my wife and kids. I asked about his. “I’m gay,” he said. “OK.” I replied.
Then, we went on to talk about other things. Come to find out, we had a lot in common. We were both crazy about Patsy Cline. We knew about everyone in town and loved sharing stories. He smoked and drank too much and I used to. We were happy to live in a small town and had little desire to advance professionally.
Now, after the Haggard revelation, I’m wondering, just how gay I am? (I mean, I’ve gotten along pretty well with several gay persons.) It couldn’t be that I’m 100%, because I’m not sexually attracted to persons of the same gender. When it comes to upholding Church standards on sexuality, I am a fairly staunch traditionalist. I could be labeled a “homophobe” with the best of them.
But, surely I’m part gay. What about my not wanting to do manual labor or get my hands dirty? What about my one-time penchant for day-time soap operas? What about my vocation itself? Don’t more homosexuals enter the clergy than any other field?
I need a test. Someone like Dr. X needs to devise a reliable, hardcore pschological test for measuring the degree to which someone is a homosexual. Dr. X, are you up for the challenge?
Maybe you (other bloggers) could help? Submit your questions that might help measure a person’s “gayness”. And don’t get ugly about it. Get reflective. Ask yourself the question –
“How gay am I?”
P.S. The “gay” man I mentioned earlier & I went on to be good friends. I never knew a thing about his sex life, but I’m guessing he couldn’t have been more than 20% gay. 25% tops.
{Note: Read retraction of Rev. Haggard’s sexuality in “XXX Gay“}
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more on homosexuality….
LMAO! Too funny…
I’m about 85% gay. I like Cher, Madonna, & Rosie O’Donnell. I love flamingos. I enjoy dancing, singing, and acting like an all around fruit from time to time (although normally in the privacy of my own home).
On the flip side, I also like doing yard work, I work in a machine shop, and I like to go days without shaving.
I’m not sure how to apply a specific percentage to it, but you get the point.
The story that you mentioned about Ted Haggard actually said that he was 100% heterosexual after the three weeks of extensive therapy. It takes longer than that to dry out in rehab…
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_5164921
Interesting post!!
PP responds: Wow! I read your story word-for-word and yet processed “homosexual” instead of “heterosexual”. What a Freudian slip! (This would be a good time to plug my posts - “An Exclusive Interview with Sigmund Freud” & “My Dinner with Dr. Freud” - under my “Top Posts”) Anyway, thanks for the correction & keep up the good writing. Oh, and I hate shaving as well.
While your post may be “tongue in cheek,” I think you are
asking the wrong question! Whether gay or straight, our sex
lives are only a portion of who we are. Heterosexuals seem to
be obsessed with whom I sleep with and uninterested in the
other 75% of who I am. Why do you think this is? For you dear pistol pete, the question is, how heterosexual are you? I suspect men and women will vary greatly in their answers depending on how important they view their sex lives… if indeed one can answer honestly. Yours truly, downright personal
PP responds: Your reply makes my point precisely. My friend, who (as far as I know) had an active sex life with a same gender person, was probably 75% like me. As for how heterosexual I am, I would guess between 50-75%. I used to try to be a “new-age sensitive male”, but gave it up when I got married.
I should probably clarify to any readers that I am, in fact, attracted to the same gender. I do not want my comment to offend anyone (even though we should all make fun of ourselves a bit more, don’t you think?).
PP responds: I don’t think you need to clarify anything other than you are overly concerned with offending others. You are right we need to lighten up & laugh at ourselves. Otherwise, we’ll go crazier than we already are. Thanks for responding.
Hi Pistol Pete
Thanks for your encouraging comment on my blog.
I don’t claim to be any kind of expert, but I have heard it said that views in the USA and Europe differ. USA tends towards the view that you are one way or the other, whereas Europe tends towards the view that we are all somewhere on a spectrum of ‘gayness’.
What does this mean? If you take the American polarity view, you might say you can’t blame gays for their congential behaviour. If you take the European spectral view, you can’t blame the gays, because you are just the same. Hoever, it gives more scope for encouraging people to move along the spectrum, and I see this happening in both the gay and Christian lobbies.
Personally, i think very few people are 100% one way or the other. I am married with 6 children and have a fantastic sexual relationship with my wife. yet during the times in my life when I have been addicted to pornography, a lot of that has been gay, and during those times I have moved irreversably in that direction. I still find the thought of a gay kiss nauseating, yet gay felatio is attractive and I have caught myself being attracted to male colleagues in tight t shirts!
And so, i am in absolutely no position to point the finger at gays. But I do search the scripture for the truth of what God really thinks about this. It is hard to see through the partisan bias that is inherently present in any writing or research, but so far my Evangelical convictions have been reinforced - though not without reservations.
Yes, Gay people can have deep, loving, meaningful relationships. But so can incestous siblings, and those who want to marry their father’s wives, and I have even heard of I guy who claims to have a deep and meaningful loving relationship with his horse, and we don’t hesistate to say these things are sin.
So, until i am pursuaded otherwise, I will not indulge by gay tendancies, i will not reinforce them with fantasies or pornography, and I will encourage others to similarly renounce homosexual acts and turn to the Christ who knows all our failings, weaknesses and desires, yet still loves us wholly.
Simon
PP replies: Wow, Simon, you’ve certainly searched your heart and mind on this. I almost pushed the “delete” button when I saw the word “felatio”, but within the context of your faithful response, I felt it was worthy of inclusion. Right or wrong, I think if people read this, it will stir up a lot of helpful discussion. Thanks for writing.
Thanks for the visit and comment on my blog. I had posted about the decision by Conservative Judaism to accept the ordination of gays and lesbians.
On the question posed here, I think the issue is one of continuum. That there are those who are bisexual, suggests that this is true. Probably most humans are predominantly hetero, maybe 5% are predominantly gay and then everyone else is somewhere in between.
Interesting conversation. The key here is simple, though, how do we live peacefully in a pluralistic society?
Pistol fires back: You are absolutely right, friend. We would make good conversation partners (in a strictly platonic sense, that is).
Haggard called himself “100% heterosexual,” not “homosexual.” Whether or not we believe him is a different matter.
In point of fact, ever since the Kinsey report, scientists have put sexual orientation on a scale with very few of us fitting into the “100%” category on either end. Bi-sexuals are those who are equally attracted to both sexes.
Pistol fires back: You’re right about the 100% heterosexual (see Brian’s comment above). I don’t place much stock in the Kinsey report. We know he had only one thing on his mind.
Pistol Pete,
I saw you on WorldMag and decided to read your blog. I agree with you. I have oftern wanted to start a line of Hallmark type cards to send to my gay friends and relatives. Something along the lines of “I heard you were gay. So What?” I have a guy friend that once he tumbled out of the closet wouldn’t have anything to do with us, his straight friends. I also dated a guy once that had a baby grand piano in his dining room, was obsessed with the Little Mermaid, and had Disney Cells hung all over his house. Several of my friends wanted to know if I was sure he was straight. Trust me. He was….
Pistol fires back: Wow! A reader of “WorldMag” who thinks like me. I’m impressed.
Over the years I’ve known many homosexuals. Some were “out”, others lived somewhat in the “closet” or “on the down low”. As a musician, I’ve had to work with quite a few homosexuals over the years (both inside as well as outside of the church, by the way), and as a public school teacher, I have taught homosexual students. I think I have had a good relationship with all these people. Granted, I’ve not had what I would call close personal friendships with homosexuals; we’ve just been good “acquaintances”. The lack of close friendships was simply because our lifestyles didn’t connect on a deeper level, probably for obvious reasons. Sadly, I’ve also known homosexuals who are now deceased because of the effects of AIDS.
However, my personal feelings about people cannot change what God has said. What is clear from Scripture is that homosexuality (and surely that includes homosexual thoughts and attractions) in the sight of God is sin. Homosexuality is never mentioned in Scripture except in a negative light. How much someone is or is not homosexual is beside the point. It’s like asking how much of a sinner someone is. Every part of us has, to one degree or another, been tainted by sin. All of us are unclean. That’s why all of us deserve God’s eternal condemnation. That’s why all are in desperate need of God’s grace in Christ Jesus, and the salvation which Christ purchased with His own blood, obtained through faith alone in Him.
You mentioned in comments on my blog that “we need a sense of perspective & humor”, when it comes to the issue of homosexuality. Yet, it’s difficult for me to find humor in homosexuality. This sin, like a drug, enslaves those who yield to its temptations. Further, those who “accept” and embrace their homosexuality, in effect, reject God’s rule over their lives. They put their stamp of approval on that which God has condemned. Of course, God is right and they are wrong. And they lose in the end, because homosexuals will not “inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9; Luke 19:14, 27). That’s not humorous to me; it’s tragic and sad. And the fact that so many people today are falling for the evil lie that homosexuality is acceptable—simply a lifestyle choice—is alarming.
Pistol fires back: Henry Ward Beecher once said — “Compassion will cure more sins than condemnation.”
Wow! This is way to big of a can of worms to seriously explore in a few paragraphs, so I’ll just offer a few brief observations.
When you want to develop a ‘test,’ you first need some operational definition of what that ‘thing’ you’re measuring is. By operational I mean observable and quantifiable. What is observable and quantifiable is not necessarily what you’re really trying to determine so it gets very tricky.
You have to decide what you’re calling ‘gayness’ and what you’re calling ’straightness’ and figure out what it is that you can actually observe and measure to confirm that the test you construct actually measuring these observable phenomenon, which is not necessarily the thing you want to measure.
There are other problems, as well. Are the constructs themselves valid? What is ‘gayness’ and what is ’straightness?’ For example, if you’re going say you intend to measure the percentage of gayness in a person, does that means you’re going to measure the percentage of straightness as well? e.g. 60% gay 40% straight. Why not just a test for straightness and infer that the rest is gayness?
The problem is that by assuming that there is a percentage of something that can be measured we would also seem to be assuming that straightness and gayness exist on a bipolar scale. There is no reason to assume that is so. I like rice. I like potatoes. Can you say that if I’m 40% rice-liker, I must be 60% potato-liker?
You’ve got to deal with hundreds of unanswerable questions of this sort and no one has the kind of data or an agreed upon set of constructs to support what would be needed to create some meaningful measurement, in my opinion.
One of the scales on a test called the MMPI-II had it’s origins in a scale that naively attempted to measure homosexuality. It didn’t and it doesn’t. The MMPI-II is helpful for many things, but measuring ‘homosexuality’ or ‘heterosexuality’ is not one of them.
If constructing a test to measure homosexuality or heterosexuality were possible, what would you do with it? I can’t really think of an application.
Pistol fires back: Ladies & Gentleman - Dr. X. I don’t understand all of what he says, but I now know he likes both potatoes and rice.
I’m not gay at all!
But I do have a great painting of Pistol Pete to show you by a good friend of mine, and I’ll tell you something about the European versus American views of the world.
Europe is much more likely to see the world in shades of grey, or even rainbow colours (nice flag, Brian.)
Look at the way we support 23 official languages in the European Union for starters! Meanwhile, special interests in America like to paint everything as black-and-white, or rather black-OR-white. Expanding on this idea, it is easy to see how Europeans can tolerate many different ways of being on a spectrum: some more this, some less that, but all 100% human. We Americans tend to become more polarised over time :-(
As for me, I am completely heterosexual and 100% female. However … when people talk about preferences and intelligence traits in male brains versus female brains, I always conclude I think more like a man—with my visual approaches to problems and enjoyment of maths and physics, engineering career, and dread of anything pink and frilly …
P.S. Hello Brian. Thanks for leading me here. I think the whole Freudian slip above is funny. And anyway, I hate shaving too 8-)
Pistol fires back: Note to self - “Future Post - How Human Are You?”
Lets see…married, love my wife and the stuff we do that makes our family grow, watch football, get excited about trucks with big tires and cars that go fast, and I enjoy beer more than wine coolers. On the other hand, I work in an elementary school, I’m a vegetarian, I had an art history concentration in college, and I think that Andy Warhol was as cool as Johnny Cash. Percentage would vary depending on the day, I suppose, but, never more than 39.685% gay.
Pistol fires back: The only place I “draw the line” is on Johnny Cash, who was definitely cooler than Andy Warhol.
Ah, I see who Ted Haggard is now. I’m trying to find out how I am supposed to react but at this moment I’m indifferent towards his revelation.
Wow good question? How Gay AM I? What could be used to measure Gayness?
Pesonally I’m in the 60-70% range. LOL.
1. I know how to dress- Socks match to slacks–shoes match to belt; and all your metals must match–etc.
2. I deem my taste in music much better than most.
3. I can take a tons of pictures just to find that one that looks artistic.
4. I use Macs
5. I feel comfortable around gay people
6. I can give my girlfriend shopping advice
7. I can actually make friends with a girl and not want it to be sexual.
8. I don’t play any average sports (I Fence and Run)
9. I dont like beer, liquor only
10. I understand a bucn of gay terminology, that I shouldn’t LOL
Pistol fires back: Yeah, the sharp dressing & advice on shopping have got to boost your percentage quite a bit.
Interesting post and comment thread. What about people that are “gay” consistently (100%) but aren’t homosexual, don’t support the homosexual political agenda and don’t have any homosexual interests?
The homosexuals have absconded with a perfectly good and servicable word. Now that it has made a dictionary definition (”gay” as a word for homosexual) when will it rise to the number 1 definition.
I can’t speak for you but I’ve know quite a few homosexuals and don’t begrudge them their preference or want to re-criminalize it. As rule (there are or may be exceptions) they are the least “gay” people I know.
No one rational “hates” homosexuals, but thinking people don’t have to accept it, endorse it or participate in the lie that it is *normal* or should be *celebrated*.
Pistol fires back: Your first point is very insightful. One of my best friends is a “self-professing” gay, but he wants no part of the “gay agenda”. He is himself, no less or more “gay” than I am - except that he is sexually attracted to persons of the same gender. As for your third point, I’m not sure it has much to do with rationality as with empathy and compassion. No genuine follower of Christ should hate anyone, but we can (and often do) disagree with each other.
You said, “Henry Ward Beecher once said, ‘Compassion will cure more sins than condemnation.’”
Henry was dead wrong. Compassion might help people feel good about themselves while they remain in their sin, but compassion will do nothing to “cure” sin. Sin can only be “cured” by the blood of Jesus. If sin required the death of God’s only Son, it seems wise that we not take it lightly.
Wyeth, you are right: Henry is dead. Despite that, I do not believe he was wrong when he promoted compassion over condemnation.
He also said:
I don’t think Christians should even dabble in considering their gayness. Sorry…I’m not much fun when it comes to this topic. I believe the church is becoming more like the world everyday.
There was a time when the church turned the world on its head…now its the other way around.
The Pistol fires back: Thanks for responding. I’m sure there are topics I’m not much fun at as well. It is tough as a Christian to live “in the world” but not “of it”. Let’s pray for each other than we discover the best ways to do this.
First of all, I can’t believe that more people don’t find your post funny! Where have they lost their senses of humor?
Secondly, MY Bible doesn’t say the following:
There was no such word as “homosexual” in the Bible days and sexuality as we know it is a relatively modern concept. Any Biblical interpretation that uses the word “homosexual” is incorrect and blatantly biased.
I would recommend that any Christians reading this post do a little more research into the verses commonly used against homosexuals before divulging their religious views to the world. The Bible has been used to denounce science, to promote slavery, to discriminate against women and to cause gay people much anguish and sorrow.
It’s time to stop using God’s words to spread hatred. Let’s love and support one another instead of tearing each other down at every opportunity. We are all God’s children. I was made in God’s image, just like you; I just happen to be gay.
I believe that most people oppose homosexuality out of fear and they use the Bible to validate those feelings.
I hope that these comments are taken in the spirit that they are intended, as I am not trying to attack anyone. I simply wish that they would be open-minded enough to consider the possibility that the Bible might not say that monogamous, same-sex relationships are wrong.
I know it’s almost impossible to change a person’s mind on this issue. Even though I’m willing to discuss and study the subject, I will admit that I’ve pretty much made my mind up how I feel about it. It’s a little more personal to me than it would be to most people, though.
Pistol Pete - I think you’re a cool person and probably a great minister. Too bad there aren’t more like you.
(Hi, Inel - Great comments!)
Pistol fires back: Clearly, you have a lot of passion about this issue. You’ve obviously done your research, though for every scholar you find that backs one side, you’ll find at least one more to back the other. {Hence, I took out the links you listed - but would encourage anyone interested to visit your site & find them.}
Spiritual (not just academic) truth comes when we agree to carefully & prayerfully search the Scriptures - together, with the respect and humility of Christ. Bruce, I suspect we would make decent conversation partners (in a purely Platonic sense, understand).
lol, oh boy, tongue in cheek. Let’s see, i love a man, i sing love songs to him, i kinda feel all warm at times and teary at others, he’s got long hair and wears dresses, he really loves to party and hangs out with the wrong crowd, he tells me he loves me very much and wants to be with me always - i must be like 99% gay ;)
Hey Pistol Pete…Wass Up! ( i use to call my grandson that)
Any hoot let me start by saying, ‘I’m Okay, You’re All Straight’ she said with a smile.
You remind me of my adopted big sister, who is a Pastor. I adopted her over 20 yrs. ago. When we met she believed people who smoked cigs, those who were cremated and of course all LGBT people were going straight to Hell.
Then she met me. I smoked I’m going to be cremated and I’m one of those LGBT. Ouch, she said. Needless to say, after our friendship blossomed into Big Sis, Little Sis she watched my love, compassion I extended to others. Along with my super crazy faith and love I have for Jesus & Our Lord. She began questioning many things.
We went on to have a Street Ministry for 15 yrs. until I moved out of state. We never preached condemnation or Hell. We shared the love of God. We fed clothed housed the needy and the broken hearted, absent of any judgement.
She couldn’t believe how I could lead the unwanted and discarded to the Lord and up under the waters. And, here it is 20 yrs. later and we talk by phone everyday.
Be Blessed My Friend
The Pistol fires back: I appreciate your friendship and story about your Big Sis. So you plan to be cremated, huh? Might I suggest donating your body to science? I can’t be an organ donor because of all the drugs I’ve taken to keep me sane, but I figure I can do my part finding out why people like me are born in the first place. Thank you for the blessing. May you (and all of us) be blessed by God, challenged by Christ, and inspired by the Holy Spirit.
{Note to other bloggers: “Necessary Therapy” does not endorse the political views of the websites in comments. So far as I know, we don’t endorse any political views whatsoever. When it comes to politics, I’m pretty much a spineless jellyfish. I do believe, however, we’ll all be pretty surprised who is in heaven and who is in hell. Thank God it’s not our decision.}
Nice post…I can definitely relate. I have always found that I’m a lesbian trapped in a man’s body. :-)
Keep blogging…I’m challenged by what you write.
The Pistol fires back: I’ll pray for your liberation. And, I liked the SEX in church piece on your blog. Stay in touch.
I totally relate to the question posed by Dr. X.
Firstly, what I sense from your article is a relation between gender conformity and homosexuality. I honestly don’t understand this comparison, though I do understand where it comes from. In the late 1800s, homosexuality went through a period when it was intensely discussed in scientific forums. The subjects of their studies were also selected for gender non-conformity, hence the artificial connection. Gender-role nonconformity isn’t always a good indicator of sexual orientation.
Before you make a test for gayness, we should define what gayness IS… cause there are quite a few different ways that we could construct it. Should we include different cultures and their gender ideas, general biological factors, sexual partnership, behavior, selection of music, attraction to same sex, or maybe even lack of attarction to the opposite sex (which is different than attraction to same sex)
Or we could use Ted Haggard as a model and say the propensity to snort coke and have sex with male prostitutes means that you’re straight… gay… straight… gay… oops, make that straight again.
See, it gets too confusing for me. In reality, I don’t think our current model for straight and gay is enough to explain how things really are in the real world. Even in the Bible, are we talking modern American interpretation of gay, or the original Greek? Personally, reading Hebrew takes a while, so I haven’t even gotten through the Old Testament with enough thought. (cause if there ever was a book where I wanted to take the time to not jump to conclusions, it would be the Bible.)
Heh, and as you saw on my blog what if the gay test was biological? Could I prick your finger and tell you your orientation, or maybe we can talk about the limits of identity, science, and our current understanding of homosexuality.
You know, I think you’d make a good conversational partner, Mr. Pistol… in a strictly platonic way, of course.
The Pistol fires back: You’ve given this a lot of thought. What does that say about your identity/orientation, huh? (he says, with one eyebrow raised). I agree that the whole concept of “gay/straight” needs to be redefined and stripped of so much unwarranted theological/social/political baggage. Though my gay friends (and possibly my straight friends as well) might disagree, there is clearly a difference between identitity/orientation & behavior. At the risk of stirring up a whole can of worms, an analogy would be - I was born an alcoholic, but I can be a practicing alcoholic or a recovering one. Having sex or not having sex does not make you who you are - gay or straight.
Thanks for visiting and for referring folks. Have you seen THe Life Aquatic? There’s this hilarious moment when Jeff Goldblum says to Bill Murray, “We’re all a little bit gay.” I think it’s true.
The Pistol fires back: I think the last movie I saw was the recently-released, “Lion King”.
Well I have to say that at least there seems to be a somewhat openminded discusion of ideas. Rare when it comes to the discussion of Homosexuality and God.
I am a born again Christian. I have lived with and given into homosexual temptation since before I got saved at 15. I’m 47 now. I always felt great condemnation inside for my desires and feelings, and behavior. I consequently spent many years feeding my fleshly desires because believed I couldnt be accepted by, or serve God, in my present, flawed condition. I thought if I didn’t gain complete victory over my orientation, I was doomed, rejected, as the scripture often referenced implies: “those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom…” .
I won’t try to argue that same sex sexual relationships are perfectly fine in God’s eyes. Not even commited monogamous ones. There is no scripture to back it up, but it seems odd that we single out this one “sin” as the one that will send you to Hell saved or not. Those who point the finger in disgust, even those who only shake their heads sadly, miss, as even I do, the grace, and the power, afforded by our Savior. Perhaps there would be no need for a “GAY” church teaching that its “okay to be gay” and “God accepts you just the way you are”, if the Church truly had a grip on the reality of GRACE. One might say “Love the sinner, Hate the sin. But to quote another, who spoke much more appropriately: “Love the sinner, Hate your OWN sin”. Even better yet “Hate MY own sin.” And believe me I do. But at some point in our history the struggles and failures to overcome the carnal mind and the flesh became more acceptable if they didn’t involve homosexual temptation.
But because of the fall of man, the sinful nature has rooted itself in every person in one way or another, in faults and flaws which manifested in our young lives so early on that we couln’t even remember the first incedent. In other words.. my own righteousness at 6 months was still filthy rags. Through Christ we are redeemed from a sinfull nature!!! But some of that we often don’t even recognize as sinfull and hence it isnt identified as the old nature. Praise God that he wants to redeem us from ALL sin. The ones we commited 10 minutes ago and the ones we will repeat tomorrow and the day after. The ones we have no idea are sins. The ones that we refuse to even admit ARE sin, because everyone else in Church is still doing it. The Church is full of Gluttons, Thieves, and Coveters, all in denial. I am as guilty as they, and they as me!!! Let us acknowledge the Power of the Spirit over ALL sin, not just the ones most people arent tempted by. Not just the ones that I’m not tempted by. Let us mourn with one another. Let us confess our sins to one another, bandage each others wounds, and pray for one another. Maybe then we will be one as Christ prayed we would be.
The Pistol fires back: My post certainly seems to have stirred up a passion within you (and possibly some pain as well?). May we all receive God’s forgiveness for our sin (no matter what that be), and grow in grace through the Spirit of Christ. Thanks for visiting. Drop by anytime.
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The Pistol fires back: What a blessing! An authentic plug that did not even require my doing anything shameless (beyond my ordinary postings.)
Don’t have my Bible right in front of me at the moment, but somewhere (in Psalms?) doesn’t it say that it’s His kindness that leads us to repentance?
I think for the most part, the church today has lost sight of that. We tend to think it’s God’s judgment and wrath that leads people to repentance. But I think Jesus’ death on our behalf is the ultimate expression of God’s kindness toward us sinners.
~Debi
The Pistol fires back: Very good point. I’m not sure what verse you’re referring to, but the idea that it is God’s kindness that leads us to repentence is spread throughout the Scriptures. Faith motivated by fear is not nearly as vibrant as faith motivated by grace.
Found it (and it definitely wasn’t in Psalms .. lol).
Romans 2:4 — “Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?”
~Debi
The Pistol fires back: Good reference. Glad you were led there.
Dano…..
That is one of the bests posts I`ve ever read. Scripture says if you confess your sins he is faithful and just to forgive you your sins and to cleans you from all unrighteousness. It also says there is now therefore no condemnation to those who are in christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit. Just don`t ever dismiss the truth and never give up the fight.
The Pistol fires back: Glad this post spoke to you.
Very amusing post… I’m not sure how “gay” I would be but I don’t think the % would be very high! (And I am gay!)
I don’t like going out to gay places and I’m not interested in the one night stand and promiscuous lifestyle that many lesbians (in my experience) hold.
I’m 21 and still a virgin and waiting for the right lady and I know I won’t sleep with anyone til I’m in a longterm, loving relationship.
I’m not into the whole gay scene and all the “gay music” lol. And I’m definately not into the typical dress style :P
I recon I’d be around 25% gay lol
x
The Pistol fires back: Thanks for dropping by and weighing in. I respect you for your commitment to reserve sex for a long-term, loving relationship. It would be my hope that, though you identify yourself as gay, this might be in a heterosexual marriage. But, that’s in God’s hands, not mine.